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  • mw147
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    Originally posted by FranzyFan View Post

    While technically no one is "out of it" yet. I can pretty much guarantee Neither Colorado, Winnipeg, nor Jersey is making the playoffs barring a major upset. I even give Vegas a better shot than those three.
    I actually see talent on Colorado, it depends largely on their goaltending. They may not make the playoffs but they should not be as epically bad as they were last year.

    You never know how teams view themselves, but it seems unlikely anyone is looking to unload any good players now unless they have cap issues or want to move someone on a bad contract.

    Plus I'm on the TK bandwagon, I would like to see how our young players perform first before giving up assets for a mediocre veteran. For the first time in forever I have some hope that our coaching staff will actually coach and nurture these guys instead of preferring to play the Marty Reasoners of the world.



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  • FranzyFan
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    Originally posted by Dom View Post

    I think it's going to have to wait until the trade deadline, because no one is out of it right now, but who knows.
    While technically no one is "out of it" yet. I can pretty much guarantee Neither Colorado, Winnipeg, nor Jersey is making the playoffs barring a major upset. I even give Vegas a better shot than those three.

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  • Scott
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    Originally posted by Dom View Post

    I think it's going to have to wait until the trade deadline, because no one is out of it right now, but who knows.
    I'm curious to see what teams look to add or move late in camp. After that, yeah, we will probably have to wait about 5 months.

    Besides the playoffs, I would like a vet 3C behind Barzal. If we had say Duchene as 2C, I would be fine with Nelson/Beauvillier. After the Duchene ship seemingly sailed, focus should have shifted to cheaper 2Cs or at least a 3C. Relying on 3 kids is tough, we should be happy if just one of them make an impact this season.

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  • Dom
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    Originally posted by Scott View Post

    Yup, I'm confident we get into the playoffs, mainly because of offense and goaltending, but should be looking for a "grey beard" or 2 in order to make some noise once in. I would keep my eyes open for that 3C now though. If the right guy is available sooner rather than later, even better.
    I think it's going to have to wait until the trade deadline, because no one is out of it right now, but who knows.

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  • Scott
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    Originally posted by Dom View Post

    I sorta agree, but I think we're in pretty good shape overall. At least, we should be assuming the kids are the real deal.

    But in order to go a long playoff run, I do think we're going to have to add that big 3rd line C who wins faceoffs.
    Yup, I'm confident we get into the playoffs, mainly because of offense and goaltending, but should be looking for a "grey beard" or 2 in order to make some noise once in. I would keep my eyes open for that 3C now though. If the right guy is available sooner rather than later, even better.

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  • Dom
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    Originally posted by Scott View Post
    I think we have good depth in terms of numbers but not talent. Need to turn 2 or 3 of these middle 6 forwards into a more impact guy. Even if it is "only" a big faceoff winning 3C, that would fill a need and make more of an impact than the likes of Bailey, Chimera and even Nelson.

    Forget which preview it was, but the writer said the Isles look like a bunch of players, not a team. I agree.
    I sorta agree, but I think we're in pretty good shape overall. At least, we should be assuming the kids are the real deal.

    But in order to go a long playoff run, I do think we're going to have to add that big 3rd line C who wins faceoffs.

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  • Scott
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    I think we have good depth in terms of numbers but not talent. Need to turn 2 or 3 of these middle 6 forwards into a more impact guy. Even if it is "only" a big faceoff winning 3C, that would fill a need and make more of an impact than the likes of Bailey, Chimera and even Nelson.

    Forget which preview it was, but the writer said the Isles look like a bunch of players, not a team. I agree.

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  • Walstib
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    Originally posted by mw147 View Post

    Maybe but I bet it doesn't last long. We will go further than 12 or even 13 forwards, unless the new boss is the same as the old boss then Beau will be here over Gionta and Bernier. I'm not counting on Prince at all, and adding back Quine makes 14 forwards, assuming no one else is hurt. Which rarely lasts long.


    That depends on what the lineup looks like. I would rather have Gionta in the press box for 4 or 5 games at a stretch than Beau. I would prefer him playing every night at B'port

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  • Dom
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    Originally posted by mw147 View Post

    Bailey should go today, some team must need a veteran forward in a contract year on a reasonable salary. I will take back a 2nd round pick right now.
    I might agree with you, but at this point, I'm not crazy about getting rid of the depth up front for just a pick. I think the smart move would be to let him play out his contract, and let him walk in the off season.

    At this point, I think we should be mostly ok up front. What I think we could use, is a big bodied, faceoff winning 3rd line center. Forget Duchene, too costly. I'm thinking someone will become available by the trade deadline for much cheaper.

    I'm afraid our real issue is Pullock. He still seems a bit timid. Hopefully, Luke Richardson can work some magic with him, but otherwise, we're going to need to add a high end D man to this group in order to really make a long playoff run.

    But our depth right now at all positions is probably the best it's ever been over the past 25 years.

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  • mw147
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    Originally posted by gazaroog View Post

    All of Pelech, Pulock and Mayfield will be making the team (not waiver eligible). That's 2 extra guys you need to keep on your roster which only gives you 1 spot for an extra forward. Beauvillier is waiver eligible. Once Quine becomes healthy, I see Beau being sent down.
    Until someone else gets hurt, which normally doesn't take long.

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  • gazaroog
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    Originally posted by mw147 View Post

    Maybe but I bet it doesn't last long. We will go further than 12 or even 13 forwards, unless the new boss is the same as the old boss then Beau will be here over Gionta and Bernier. I'm not counting on Prince at all, and adding back Quine makes 14 forwards, assuming no one else is hurt. Which rarely lasts long.

    All of Pelech, Pulock and Mayfield will be making the team (not waiver eligible). That's 2 extra guys you need to keep on your roster which only gives you 1 spot for an extra forward. Beauvillier is waiver eligible. Once Quine becomes healthy, I see Beau being sent down.

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  • mw147
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    Originally posted by Scott View Post

    I can see that as well. Barzal is the key kid forward, much more so than even JHS in my opinion. So as long as MB is here producing, I'm OK with Beauvillier going down. If Barzal and JHS show some consistency, Snow should be on the phone shopping guys like Chumera and Bailey by Christmas, opening a spot for Beauvillier's return. Key word is SHOULD.

    Also, with Barzal as 2C I would like to see a vet 3C acquired. Sticking that guy between Nelson and Bailey/HoSang on line 3 wouldn't be bad.
    Bailey should go today, some team must need a veteran forward in a contract year on a reasonable salary. I will take back a 2nd round pick right now.

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  • mw147
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    Originally posted by gazaroog View Post
    Beauvillier is going to find himself in Bridgeport. Just a prediction.
    Maybe but I bet it doesn't last long. We will go further than 12 or even 13 forwards, unless the new boss is the same as the old boss then Beau will be here over Gionta and Bernier. I'm not counting on Prince at all, and adding back Quine makes 14 forwards, assuming no one else is hurt. Which rarely lasts long.


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  • mw147
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    Originally posted by FranzyFan View Post

    Yep, I did!

    I doubt he even bid on it for the price I paid. Although he only wore it one regular season game, so maybe Barry didn't value it highly..

    BTW, unless I am missing something we have a 2nd and 3rd emoji but no 1st and no Stanley Cup. I think that needs to be fixed.

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  • Scott
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    Originally posted by gazaroog View Post
    Beauvillier is going to find himself in Bridgeport. Just a prediction.
    I can see that as well. Barzal is the key kid forward, much more so than even JHS in my opinion. So as long as MB is here producing, I'm OK with Beauvillier going down. If Barzal and JHS show some consistency, Snow should be on the phone shopping guys like Chumera and Bailey by Christmas, opening a spot for Beauvillier's return. Key word is SHOULD.

    Also, with Barzal as 2C I would like to see a vet 3C acquired. Sticking that guy between Nelson and Bailey/HoSang on line 3 wouldn't be bad.

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